NEW DRAINS FITTED!

New drains have now been fitted at La providence. It is nice to think that in some small way I helped contribute to the installation of these new drains by emailing all these pictures to all States Members. Obviously decisions were made by the developer to fit extra drains once these pictures were made public.

So it is only right to give them some credit for putting right what was potentially a very serious situation. I hope that the people who have now purchased a property at the site will have no more problems, which was the whole point of releasing my pictures.


New drains on the hill
New drains at the bottom of the hill

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The pumping station will not be finished until next year (2010)
The housing development is not connected to mains drains.
The residents will have to pay a quarterly service charge for the maintenance of the drains and sewage system.
The maintenance for the pumping station will revert to public ownership after 20 years.

As a taxpayer I find all of the above answers very unsatisfactory.

Click here for the response from Roger Scate
Notes For States Member's

This is the first response from Assistant Minister for Housing Deputy Sean Power with regards the flooding.

"There was a torrential downpour last week that overloaded the surface water drains, including La Providence, Rue De la Corbiere, St. Brelade, places in St. Helier, St. Mary and many other places. My house had similar standing water outside the front and back doors for a while until the drains caught up. It is a normal occurrence when such a localised heavy downpour of rain is caused by the humid thundery weather we had."
 

I really am lost for words that the Assistant Minister for Housing has made this comment. He has just signed the deal for shared equity on this development. I would not be happy if I had just purchased my first home and I had a river flowing outside my front door every time it rained!

Believe me I was watching hundreds of gallons of water flowing down the hill and it was not standing water. Why did the pumps not cope? How on earth does he think this acceptable?


It was was whilst I was driving home in a thunder storm on the 29th June 2009 in a heavy down pour of rain that I thought I would have a look at the flow of water in the new housing estate that had just been completed by Dandara at La Providence in St Lawrence Jersey.

Before this development was ever given the green light by the States of Jersey planning department, concerns were expressed by a great number of people about the location of this new development and its huge potential for flooding. This was unfortunately to be proved true. This problem must now be addressed and fixed by the developer.


The reason I'm putting these pictures on the net is to make sure that the public of Jersey and any potential buyers are fully aware of what they are buying. As far as I'm aware if you intend to purchase a product it must be fit for its purpose of use. I would have to say that it appears that the drainage system is very questionable in its ability to do just that on this development.

Bearing in mind that the public are financing part of this development through a shared equity agreement it's in the publics interest to know what our money is being spent on and that it's fit for purpose. The amount of water that's is these photo's, was the result of a 10 minute downpour.

If it's flooding now in the summer what will it be like in the winter? The drains could not cope with the amount of water coming down the hill. It's as simple as that.

I will be sending these pictures to all states members to clarify present states policy on this matter.. should public money have been spent on this development? And does it represent another bad investment? Will potential buyers be able to get insurance against flooding?

Their should be no standing water on a new development like this. Most of the houses at the bottom of the hill would not have been able to access their front doors without walking through inches of water. Most of the pavements were impassable and people would have great difficulty getting to the front doors of the houses on the right of the development going down the hill.

Most of which had signs in the windows saying they had just been purchased by the housing trusts shared equity.

The water as you can see was cascading down over the speed humps like a water fall then flooding into the front gardens.

The developers need to go back to the drawing board and redesign the drains going down the hill as the speed humps were causing mini dams which the water then went over with great force causing the flooding. In most cases the water was almost to the front doors.

This is a serious matter for people to consider when purchasing a property of great value when peoples life savings will be spent on this purchase. I think that some very serious questions need to be asked.


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The pictures below were taken on 29.6.09. I have sent all pictures to the JEP but to date they have not run the story.


I could not believe the amount of water flowing down the road into the development. As you can see water was cascading down over the speed humps and pavements then flooding into the front gardens.


As you can clearly see from this picture the water was flowing over the pavements into the gardens.

There would have been no way of walking on the pavement to gain access to your property without getting very wet.


As you can see from the picture on the right, new drains have now been fitted on the way down the hill. So it is good that after the release of the pictures I took of the flooding something positive has come out of it.


This was the amount of water at the bottom of the hill. The drains simply could not cope with the down pour.


It was quite obvious that if the pumping station had been working correctly this build up of water at the bottom of the hill would not have happened.
You can see quite clearly the new tarmac that has been laid next to the new drain running the whole lenghth of the wall.


This is the front view of the house at the bottom of the hill. As you can clearly see the water was half way to the front door. This was only 10 minutes of rain. What will happen when we get a weekend of storms in January or February?

As you can see from the picture on the right and below, new drains have now been fitted all along the bottom of the wall. This was the worst area affected. So it is good that after the release of the pictures new drains have in fact been fitted. Although at the time I released the pictures I was told that nothing was wrong.

Obviously I was mistaken and the new drains were not needed after all.

You can see quite clearly the new tarmac that has been laid next to the new drain running the whole lenghth of the wall.

    
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